Hello esteemed colleagues:
I work in a town of 8700, though our hospital serves an encatchment area of about 25,000. Our community on average has about 100-130 deliveries a year, currently divided amongst 6 family doctors (ie. the numbers are low and therefore difficult to support another FP c-section provider much less an OB/gyn). 2 of us are fellowship trained and therefore skilled to provide operative obstetrics; however, neither of us is skilled to perform hysterectomies.
Just in the past year alone, we have had two hair-raising experiences of placenta accretas that were not diagnosed prior to labor/delivery, which has raised serious questions about appropriate back-up and management of these situations.
Our closest hospitals with full time OB/gyn coverage are an hour away (one to the south and one to the west). Since we do not have control over who presents to our birth center, and transferring pts out is not always possible, I am wondering how you and your communities have handled these c-hyst situations (eg. placenta accreta/increta/percreta, persistent uterine atony).
Very appreciative of any advice or guidance you could provide,
Molly Hong, MD
Molly:
My answer would be the same as Ben Brewer. I practice in Fort Stockton, Tx. Shortly after I obtained the experience and therefore privileges for hysterectomy 20 years ago, the situation arose for a C-Hyst. The patient and I both survived the experience. It is 85 miles to the nearest OB/Gyn specialist, the general surgeon was out of town, and at the time there was no air transport available. You can do it.
Cecil George, MD
Molly:
The most direct answer to this is more training on your part and advancing your skills to doing hysterectomies. You've learned the c-section part. The hysterectomy portion is not that tough on top of your knowledge base and surgical skills. The control of bleeding and avoidance of the ureters and the bladder are the key elements. The question is case volume and confidence/competence level. At our facility, I would call one of our two general surgeons to help me out in one of these cases even though I've had the training.
I did about 25 abdominal hysterectomies as the main surgeon in fellowship, but I haven't had to do a hysterectomy in a c-section in 11 years. With 25-50 hysterectomy cases I think the average fellowship trained FP/OB would be fine. Where can you get this training? Perhaps a community preceptorship or a medical mission working with a general surgeon/OB/FP to show you the techniques.
My OB fellowship director trained at Duke as chief resident in OB/GYN and he'd done a total of 1 c-Hyst in his training. This shows these are rare and nasty cases that challenge anyone. You now have double his experience.
For Uterine Atony, you can inject Pitocin IM directly into the uterus. IM Methergine works too, just don't inject it IV. I've never injected Methergine directly into the uterus.
For bleeding risk stratification beware the previa and the anterior low lying placenta particularly in the margin of the old uterine scar. The blood vessels in the area don't clamp down as well. In rare cases they may need to be oversown circumferentially.
As a general rule if you wait for the placenta to spontaneously detach during your routine cases rather than manually extracting it, you'll lose less blood and the post op hemoglobin will be half a gram higher.
Ben Brewer M.D.
Gibson City, IL
(The smallest rural hospital in Illinois still doing OB) I also perform cesarean in a town of 6000, 4 docs who do about 180-200 deliveries a year. We have an obstetrician and a general surgeon who both serve 2 communities. I perform about 25-40 cesareans a year, and have had to perform an oophorectomy at cesarean and BTL as well as assist with a surgeon for a cesarean hysterectomy in a patient with percreta who was hemorrhaging.
The issue of cesarean hysterectomy is ALWAYS going to be the reason cited by obstetricians for why we should not be doing cesarean. However, in your community, patients simply have too far to travel. You ARE providing a valuable service. The issue is going to be HOW you manage a post op hemorrhage, and less WHO is managing it.
I would get to know your perinatologists at your referral center. I have a good professional relationship with mine, who are 45 minutes away. While it is certain they won't openly support a family physician doing cesarean in front of their colleagues, they usually will be congenial to your face. And if you demonstrate competent management skills, you have an opportunity to positively affect their opinion of our humble specialty.
Familiarize yourself with management techniques for postpartum hemorrhage, including uterine artery ligation, intrauterine balloon, B-lynch, subendometrial vasopressin. Transfer of the patient is ALWAYS an option. Even in my community, it is frequent that BOTH the surgeon and obstetrician are gone on vacation or unavailable.
Here are some examples from my experience:
1) Our obstetrician had a cesarean post partum hemorrhage in a 400lb patient in a smaller outlying hospital just last year. The hospital had only 4 units of blood, none compatible with the patient, no FFP, no platelets. He placed an intrauterine balloon and flew her by helicopter to the tertiary care center. Our obstetrician was on teaching staff in the past at a major medical center. This is his "retirement" home now. I value his experience. He spoke with the accepting physician, a colleague, at a tertiary medical center, WHO KNEW HIS CREDENTIALS. And he got the usual "Why can't you control it? and The bleeding can't be that bad...". After arriving at the center, they spent the next 10 hours trying to stop her bleeding nonsurgically, finally conceeding and doing a hysterectomy. Our obstetrician got a phone call back the next day from the attending, apologizing. So it goes to show that the disrespect extends to all rural docs, not just FPs.
2) In my 3rd year of practice, I opened a patient during a scheduled, elective RLTCS to discover a percreta complete with a uterine "window" in the old c/s scar through which I could see the baby's face. Mom was awake, stable, and baby in no distress. I phoned the perinatologist, who was gracious to accept the patient. We closed the abdominal incision and I rode with her by ambulance to the referral center, where she had a healthy baby later that day. She lost her uterus and fortunately had no further complication. That case earned me some respect from the tertiary care center.
3) You will ALWAYS lose 2-3 years of your life during one of these cases. You will ALWAYS question why in the he&& you ever chose to perform cesareans. But you ALWAYS will come out of it a better doctor. Remember: "Pain is weakness leaving the body."
Shane Avery MD
We have always had a general surgeon available. but now days they aren't coming out of residency with the training in GYn that they used to have. We've even had to train some of them in C-sections.
John Carroll
I do a lot of repeats, and I didn't do a c.Hyst in 11 years. BUT I DO HAVE CONTROL OF MY PRACTICE AND BACK UP IS NOT A PROBLEM.
I think that By-Pass is not available everywhere, or trauma surgeon, of others. Perhaps best for you Molly will be to set a definite referral/back up system, because most probably you will not encounter a C-Hyst for a very long time.......... and I do not know how useful will be to go for a training. Packing, O'leary, and learn how to put stitches in the main arteries will be enough.
Eduardo Scholcoff, MD
Rockford IL
One option for rural docs who need to learn some advanced procedures could be to take part in some international rotations such as those I lead for residents now at JPS and before at Brazos Family Medicine. Many of our international sites are "procedure rich" environments and when we have old missionary docs along for the trip like myself, we can help with some hysterectomy and advanced surgical training for those in your situation. I've done 6 or 7 C-Hysts over the years in difficult situations overseas and knowing how to do a quick hysterectomy has been a life saver
John Gibson, MD
JPS
Ft Worth
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